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Poster: livingspirit Date: May 17, 2011 1:01pm
Forum: general Subject: Re: Trouble Uploading


I received this advice from Tracy Jackson of Freedom Scientific technical support. The company produces the JAWS screen reader, which is the one most widely used throughout the world.

"Thank you for contacting Freedom Scientific technical Support. Try the steps

First of all, once you get in Internet Explore make sure the window is
maximized by performing the alt+spacebar followed by the letter x command.
Now log in to the site, at this point, I went down below the log out link

Link Upload/ia-button onmouse over link

I performed the JAWS key+control+enter key to see the additional items on
the link for the OnMouse over items
JAWS notified me of the line where the change took place.
Therefore, I pressed the letter j for jump to line, typed in my line value
and hit enter
Once here, navigate the page until you get to:
Not use FLASH
And hit enter

Now, if you arrow down, see if this the fields you were looking for?"


For me, the stepts did not work in IE 8, but they worked in firefox with JAWS 12.

The issue fundementally is that the Internet Archive has designed certain aspects of its website so that it does not comply with the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines of the W3c, which have been in place since 1999.

On May 3, I sent a message to Jeff Kaplan of the Internet Archive identifying the exact technical problem and offering resources that describe coding solutions that could resolve it. The message is excerpted below. Last week at the Google IO developer conference Brad Green, the company's manager of accessibility engineering gave an hour long talk with Erin of the accessibility team on how to create accessible, dynamic web pages with HTML5. His presentation can be viewed on YouTube. I have not heard back from Jeff or anyone at the Internet Archive as to when this issue will be resolved, despite all this information and resources.

Start of message excerpt:

"I did learn that onmouseover events usually don't
comply with web accessibility standards because there needs to be a way to trigger them using the keyboard. For more information check out these articles:

"The use of Javascript with HTML to create interactive and dynamic web
pages creates the responsibility for keyboard access to these
features. When developers use the onmouseover and onmouseout event
handlers they must make sure the functions associated with the event
handlers are also supported by the keyboard, typically using the
onfocus and onblur event handlers. "

"A web page containing JavaScript will typically be fully accessible
if the functionality of the script is device independent (does not
require only a mouse or only a keyboard) and the information (content)
is available to assistive technologies. Unfortunately, there is no
easy fix that can be applied to solve all accessibility problems
associated with JavaScript. The only way to ensure JavaScript
accessibility is by evaluating each individual script and devising a
unique solution to the accessibility problem it poses. Developers must
be familiar with the issues surrounding JavaScript accessibility and
apply techniques to do one or both of the following:

1.Ensure the JavaScript is directly accessible
2.Provide an accessible, non-JavaScript alternative"

Both references identify approaches that can deliver an accessible
experience to a blind end user that interacts with a web page soley
through a keyboard.

It is highly disappointing that the Internet Archive designs its pages
in a way so that they cannot be used by keyboard users. It seems that
revising the coding on the web page could be done in a relatively
short period of time. In the long term, the Internet Archive should
code its pages in relation to widely adopted web accessibility
standards, which address onmouseover events and the use of Flash."

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Poster: Story Archaeologists Date: Oct 27, 2012 5:09pm
Forum: general Subject: Re: Trouble Uploading

I have recently begun uploading content to, and have encountered the accessibility impasse regarding mouse-over activated javascript buttons. Further, I feel there should be more navigation mark-ups, such as headings and landmarks, in the site architecture, especially on search result pages.
Has there been any progress on resolving this issue with the site programmers? Would more e-mails from more blind users help?
This is a rights issue. While digital texts may be convenient for the general public, they are ESSENTIAL for visually impaired researchers and scholars.
Isolde Carmody

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Poster: Story Archaeologists Date: Oct 27, 2012 5:09pm
Forum: general Subject: Re: Trouble Uploading [web accessibility for blind users]

I've only recently started uploading to archive, and have discovered the accessibility impasse with regard to mouse-over buttons. Further, I feel the site architecture could use more page navigation mark-up such as headings and landmarks, especially on search result pages.
Has there been any progress or further response to these issues? Would more e-mails from more blind users be helpful in seeking to change this?
The point needs to be made that the availability of digital texts is essential for visually impaired researchers: it's becoming more likely that I will do a PhD now because so many digital resources are becoming available.
This is a rights issue.
Isolde Carmody